It's been more than a month since I posted! Here is a piece that responds to one of those chain e-mails. I get a lot of these from folks in my church. Sometimes they are looking for my response. Sometimes I think they just want to tweak me!
Anyway, here is the chain letter from "Angry Woman," purportedly a New Jersey housewife. I print it in its entirety, followed by each section of the letter, with my response attached. It's a bit of a slog, but I look forward to responses and dialogue after...
WOW! WHAT A LETTER! Letter from one 'Angry Woman'
I don't know who wrote it but they should have signed it. Some powerful words. This woman should run for president.
Written by a housewife from New Jersey and sounds like it! This is one ticked off lady.
Are we fighting a war on terror or aren't we? Was it or was it not started by Islamic people who brought it to our shores on September 11, 2001? Were people from all over the world, mostly Americans, not brutally murdered that day, in downtown Manhattan , across the Potomac from our nation's capitol and in a field in Pennsylvania ? Did nearly three thousand men, women and children die a horrible, burning or crushing death that day, or didn't they? And I'm supposed to care that a copy of the Koran was 'desecrated' when an overworked American soldier kicked it or got it wet?...Well, I don't. I don't care at all. I'll start caring when Osama bin Lade n turns himself in and repents for incinerating all those innocent people on 9/11. I'll care about the Koran when the fanatics in the Middle East start caring about the Holy Bible, the mere possession of which is a crime in Saudi Arabia I'll care when these thugs tell the world they are sorry for chopping off Nick Berg's head while Berg screamed through his gurgling slashed throat. I'll care when the cowardly so-called 'insurgents' in Iraq come out and fight like men instead of disrespecting their own religion by hiding in mosques. I'll care when the mindless zealots who blow themselves up in search of nirvana care about the innocent children within range of their suicide.
I'll care when the American media stops pretending that their First Amendment liberties are somehow derived from international law instead of the United States Constitution's Bill of Rights. In the meantime, when I hear a story about a brave marine roughing up an Iraqi terrorist to obtain information, know this: I don't care. When I see a fuzzy photo of a pile of naked Iraqi prisoners who have been humiliate d in what amounts to a college-hazing incident, rest assured: I don't care. When I see a wounded terrorist get shot in the head when he is told not to move because he might be booby-trapped, you can take it to the bank: I don't care.
When I hear that a prisoner, who was issued a Koran and a prayer mat, and fed 'special' food that is paid for by my tax dollars, is complaining that his holy book is being 'mishandled,' you can absolutely believe in your heart of hearts: I don't care.
And oh, by the way, I've noticed that sometimes it's spelled 'Koran' and other times 'Quran.' Well, Jimmy Crack Corn and-you guessed it-I don't care!! If you agree with this viewpoint, pass this on to all your E-mail friends. Sooner or later, it'll get to the people responsible for this ridiculous behavior! If you don't agree, then by all means hit the delete button. Should you choose the latter, then please don't complain when more atrocities committed by radical Muslims happen here in our great Country!
And may I add: 'Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. But, the Marines don't have that problem' -- Ronald Reagan I have another quote that I would like to add AND.......I hope you forward all this. 'If we ever forget that we're One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under' Also by.. Ronald Reagan
One last thought for the day: In case we find ourselves starting to believe all the Anti-American sentiment and negativity, we should remember England 's Prime Minister Tony Blair's words during a recent interview. When asked by one of his Parliament members why he believes so much in America , he said: 'A simple way to take measure of a country is to look at how many want in.. And how many want out.
Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you:
1. Jesus Christ
2. The American G. I. One died for your soul, the other for your freedom.
YOU MIGHT WANT TO PASS THIS ON,
AS MANY SEEM TO FORGET BOTH OF THEM.
AMEN!
Now, Corey's response:
Good morning, everybody. At first I just hit the delete button on this e-mail. But, after sleeping on it I realized how many of the people on this list of recipients I know and respect, especially the lovely lady who sent it to me. I also thought of my father-in-law, involved in 11 invasions in the Pacific Theatre in World War II, and how this angry woman questions HIS patriotism under her wide, dark net of anger. So, meaning no offense, this is one proud American's response. As I read through her whole letter, will you read through mine and respond as you see fit?
WOW! WHAT A LETTER!
Letter from one 'Angry Woman' I don't know who wrote it but they should have signed it. Some powerful words. This woman should run for president. Written by a housewife from New Jersey and sounds like it! This is one ticked off lady.
'Are we fighting a war on terror or aren't we? Was it or was it not started by Islamic people who brought it to our shores on September 11, 2001? Yes, we are fighting terrorism...but "the War on Terror" is a mere slogan if you use as a cover to simply kill Arab Muslims, regardless of their involvement in the 9/11 atrocities. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. This is not a matter for debate. It is a simple, irrefutable FACT. Saddam Hussein and Wahabi Muslims HATED each other. There was no connection. Those boys were mostly from Saudi Arabia, which HATED Saddam Hussein. The sick minds who planned and promoted the whole thing continue to hole up in Afghanistan and Pakistan. If you want to fight a war on terror, don't open up new fronts away from and unrelated to the battle!
Were people from all over the world, mostly Americans, not brutallymurdered that day, in downtown Manhattan , across the Potomac from ournation's capitol and in a field in Pennsylvania ? Did nearly three thousand men, women and children die a horrible, burning or crushing death that day, or didn't they? Yes, they were and they did...and it was a terrible tragedy. They were killed by a group of hateful, evil, deluded men (mostly Saudi extremists) who, with their evil leader of the same extremist sect, have embraced murder and mayhem as the best way to get their point across. We Americans know better than to behave like that in the world, right?
And I'm supposed to care that a copy of the Koran was 'desecrated' when an overworked American soldier kicked it or got it wet?...Well, I don't. I don't care at all. Well you should. You're an American, aren't you? You should care that our American soldiers are overworked and under-equipped. You should care that they have been stretched to the limit. You should care that they are being placed in hazardous duty without adequate training or a clear mission. You should care that anyone in the world should see America as anything but tolerant of religious freedom. You should care that American's would hold men in prison without trial for five or more years. We're Americans. We're the ones who care about human rights!
I'll start caring when Osama bin Laden turns himself in and repents for incinerating all those innocent people on 9/11. That's not how it works. The bringers of justice never set justice aside. Lovers of liberty never fail to respect it. Americans should never tie their behavior to the actions of the likes of Osama bin Laden. That would be un-American.
I'll care about the Koran when the fanatics in the Middle East start caring about the Holy Bible, the mere possession of which is a crime in Saudi Arabia This, too, lowers you to the level of the fanatic. The terrorists are angry at a few, so they'll lash out at anybody under the same flag. You're angry at a few, so you'll lash out at anybody under the same religion.
I'll care when these thugs tell the world they are sorry for chopping off Nick Berg's head while Berg screamed through his gurgling slashed throat. Again, a sick, terrible thing, but do you really want to sink to that mindless level? It is not only the terrorists who are dying, but tens of thousands of innocents! The terrorists weren't in Iraq. They came there to fight us, tens of thousands of innocent Iraqi men, women and children are dying. They had a terrible time under brutal Saddam Hussein, but they are suffering mightily under our occupation, too!
I'll care when the cowardly so-called 'insurgents' in Iraq come out and fight like men instead of disrespecting their own religion by hiding in mosques. Oh! You were so close to getting this right, but your anger blinded you! Much of the Muslim world is incensed at the actions of these few radicals. If you and I care about the innocent Muslims and the sanctity of their faith, THEN we will be seen as heroes and liberators. If we continue to make everyone suffer for the crimes of the few, we'll just be lumped in with the terrorists. If you're waiting for extremists to change before you will show any compassion, then you have just become an extremist yourself. CARE NOW!
I'll care when the mindless zealots who blow themselves up in search of nirvana care about the innocent children within range of their suicide. The mindless are incapable of caring. To tie your actions to their thinking only makes you mindless, too.
I'll care when the American media stops pretending that their First Amendment liberties are somehow derived from international law instead of the United States Constitution's Bill of Rights. And I would say the American media has given the Bush Administration and the congress a pass on this whole Iraq War. I would say the mainstream media is not free -- it is bought and paid for by the military-industrial complex Dwight D. Eisenhower warned us about. The Main Stream Media was fairly giddy about the buildup to war, what with all their flashy graphics, their spiked ratings, and their "embedded" reporters. They failed us, and the many who gave their lives for a free and independent press.
In the meantime, when I hear a story about a brave marine roughing up an Iraqi terrorist to obtain information, know this: I don't care. Care about the Marine and the honor code he swore to and believes in, but which he has been ordered to disregard.
When I see a fuzzy photo of a pile of naked Iraqi prisoners who have been humiliate d in what amounts to a college-hazing incident, rest assured: I don't care. Care for American justice and our reputation in the world. Humiliation at gunpoint and in front of snarling guard dogs under people who have the very power of life and death over you is unlike any hazing incident of which I have ever heard. Beyond that, when I was in college, I avoided the kind of alcoholic,frat-house idiots who pulled hazing rituals. Please don't suggest the men and women of our armed forces are simple, frat-boy jerks, or under-estimate the power of American ideals in this world by excusing inexcusable behavior...especially when the suits and officers who gave the orders stepped back and let the enlisted men and women take the hit on the whole sordid mess! Care about the soldiers who were abandoned by their leaders and had their military careers and lives ruined for this! Care about the Muslims who were trying to support us and our cause, but then had to explain how the "liberators" could do such things to people who hadn't even been brought to trial, and in the very same prison infamous for Saddam Hussein's evil deeds of like nature! Wake up and care about the world beyond your nose!
When I see a wounded terrorist get shot in the head when he is told not to move because he might be booby-trapped, you can take it to the bank:I don't care. Care about the soldier forced to make such a terrible decision in the heat of battle. I have a nephew who went to this war an upstanding, upbeat young man, and who came back from this war scarred and troubled. You should care about what our boys and girls have to do over there to survive. We knew this was going to be a chaotic bloodbath before we went in:
"I would guess if we had gone in there, I would still have forces in Baghdad today. We'd be running the country. We would not have been able to get everybody out and bring everybody home.
"And the final point that I think needs to be made is this question of casualties. I don't think you could have done all of that without significant additional U.S. casualties. And while everybody was tremendously impressed with the low cost of the conflict, for the 146 Americans who were killed in action and for their families, it wasn't a cheap war.
"And the question in my mind is how many additional American casualties is Saddam (Hussein) worth? And the answer is not that damned many. So, I think we got it right, both when we decided to expel him from Kuwait, but also when the president made the decision that we'd achieved our objectives and we were not going to go get bogged down in the problems of trying to take over and govern Iraq..."
-- Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney, August, 1992, when asked why President George H. W. Bush didn't march on to Baghdad.
When I hear that a prisoner, who was issued a Koran and a prayer mat, and fed 'special' food that is paid for by my tax dollars, is complaining that his holy book is being 'mishandled,' you can absolutely believe in your heart of hearts: I don't care. Care and be proud that that prisoner knew enough about our nation to expect better from Americans. I do, too.
And oh, by the way, I've noticed that sometimes it's spelled 'Koran' and other times 'Quran.' Well, Jimmy Crack Corn and-you guessed it-I don'tcare!! In all your anger, you don't care about much, do you? People are different. Places are different. You can't "bring freedom to the world" without recognizing and respecting these differences. Don't make the mistake of considering willful ignorance a sign of strength and patriotism. That's the flaw of the extremist.
If you agree with this viewpoint, pass this on to all your E-mail friends. Sooner or later, it'll get to the people responsible for this ridiculous behavior! If you don't agree, then by all means hit the delete button. Should you choose the latter, then please don't complain when more atrocities committed by radical Muslims happen here in our great Country! Your methods give them new excuses and recruitment videos. You want to create new terrorists? Tell the world you don't care about the Muslim faith, imprisonment without trial, torture and the death of tens of thousands of innocent civilians who were never in any way connected to 9-11. Good God, wise up, Angry Woman!
And may I add: 'Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. But, the Marines don't have that problem' -- Ronald Reagan
I have another quote that I would like to add AND.......I hope you forward all this.
'If we ever forget that we're One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under' Also by.. Ronald Reagan
Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.
Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women.
The ultimate determinant in the struggle now going on for the world will not be bombs and rockets, but a test of wills and ideas -- a trial of spiritual resolve: the values we hold, the beliefs we cherish and the ideals to which we are dedicated.
-- You guessed it, all quotes from President Reagan!
One last thought for the day: In case we find ourselves starting to believe all the Anti-American sentiment and negativity, we should remember England 's Prime Minister Tony Blair's words during a recent interview. When asked by one of his Parliament members why he believes so much in America , he said: 'A simple way to take measure of a country is to look at how many want in...And how many want out.'
Those who insist on holding America and Americans to the very highest standards are the true patriots. As Americans, we are born not simply privileged. We are born RESPONSIBLE. Care for the world and its people is the first, best test to determine a true American... and a true follower of Christ, for that matter!
Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you:
1. Jesus Christ He did not die for our anger and ignorance. He died FROM our anger and ignorance.
2. The American G. I. The least we could do is uphold the high ideals they died for!
One died for your soul, the other for your freedom.
I would add a third: the American Activist, who died for our freedom and our weakest members (who the Apostle Paul instructed us to honor the most). It is the activist who keeps our government honest, our citizens aware and inspired, and our outcasts welcomed into American society with all its freedoms and responsibilities. It is the American Activist who won Angry Woman her right to vote. It is the American Activist who insisted on freedom and a voice for all citizens. It is the American Activist who integrated our military. It is the American Activist who demanded body armor and armored vehicles for our soldiers. It is the American Activist who is demanding better care for our wounded veterans and A NEW G.I. BILL. We have already seen what happens if we blindly entrust the care of our veterans, National Guard and enlisted soldiers to our government: budget cuts, under-equipping and unnecessary death and injury. Thank you, American Activist, for truly supporting our truths (and troops), not just slapping a ribbon on your car and pretending you've done something to help!
YOU MIGHT WANT TO PASS THIS ON,
AS MANY SEEM TO FORGET BOTH OF THEM.
AMEN!
I wish you all peace as only God can give. Pray for our world. Work for its well-being.
Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed through the renewing of your mind in Christ Jesus. -- Romans 12:2
Rev. Corey Keyes
Wow. There's some anger there.
ReplyDeleteFirst, Bin Laden will never repent. Why would he? He had a cause and I'm sure he feels justified in his cause. Now, I'm not excusing him for what he did at all. I'm saying the certain people have different reasons for doing the things they do. While we think what he did was wrong, he probably feels as though he was right.
In regards to her claims that she won't care for the "Kuran" until they care for the Bible- they don't have to just like you don't. Maybe you have a friend or family member who doesn't care about the Bible. Are you going to show them the same "due regard" you show people from the middle east? You need to understand that not everyone is going to have the same beliefs you do. That's one of the foundations that this country was built on.
You should care when a Marine or other representative of this country roughs someone up or treats someone unfairly. Did you not care when the video of the Marine and the puppy surfaced. I know I was disturbed by it. These people are representing us. The only thoughts or beliefs, or biases that people in other countries have of the American people in general is from how we're represented by the military right now. Just like some of the American people judge the middle east by those who do wrong. Those individuals only make up a percentage...
There's so much more I'd like to comment on but can't because I'm at work. I just wanted to hit on a few that really phased me.
Thanks, Jim. Well said. It's great to have you contributing to this blog.
ReplyDeleteIt seems to me there is a contingent of 'shoot from the hip' folks who don't take the time to consider how their words and actions will play out in the real world beyond the present moment. It seems to me our current president may be one of those individuals, and that is a scary thought.
In the game of chess, a reasonably successful beginner will anticipate one or two moves and likely counter moves ahead. More advanced players are capable of thinking a few more moves beyond that. The great masters know the board, pieces and game implicitly, and devote the greater energy to understanding their adversary.
Life is not chess. But we have far more success in it if we devote time to figuring out first ourselves, then those we are facing, and then temper our words and actions accordingly.
I agree. While I'm sure our President has some intelligence (look at the schools he went to, he MUST have learned something) but he doesn't seem to think things through before acting. The current situation we're in seems to have no end in the near future.
ReplyDeleteNow, we can't necessarily blame all of this on him. I'm sure his staff played a role in his decision to go to war. I'm not trying to spark another debate within the topic we're discussing here. Am I for the war? I am for the war on terror. After 9/11 action needed to be taken. I believe that there needed to be more deliberations before our action was taken. We needed more planning. We needed an exit strategy.
Chess is a very nice way to describe it, Uncle Corey. The Bush Administration seems to be that "reasonably successful beginner". I'd rather use reasonably competent in this scenario. The B.A. seems to have thought certain details out but, and I could be wrong, I have never heard an exit strategy. It's almost like Bush said "Let's just get in there and do what we can while I'm in office, someone else will clean up after I'm gone."
That's the thinking of an adolescent. Someone else will clean up my mess if I don't want to. It's irresponsible.
Of course, Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, meaning the opening premise of the B.A.'s rush to war was false. But, hey, here we are.
ReplyDeleteAgreed. I meant to explain that a little better. By war on terror, I mean war on terror. Not a war in a country that, to the best of my knowledge, we had no business being in.
ReplyDeleteAnd yes, here we are.
Great argument, Corey.
ReplyDeleteLet's see ... love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, faithfulness and self-control ... all missing from Angry Woman's tirade. How sad that this is forwarded through "christian" email lists. I pray for her; I pray for all those who embrace her way of thinking.
There comes a point where we must ask ourselves: Do we want to BE right, or do we want to DO right? We can justify all kinds of nasty behavior, but we're not called to do that. We're called to a higher standard, both by our constitution and our God.
First of all, I agree with your comments about the chain e-mail.
ReplyDeleteSecond,I found it quite fascinating that Angry Woman wrote this email because, in my personal opinion, she is not helping anyone in the least. Terrorism is only effective if it creates the sort of fear that leads to hate and apathy. What will future generations say when they realize that people like Angry Woman used the Bible and a flag to protect themselves from having to admit to the tragic realities of our struggling world? Will her children be proud that she didn't care about the sufferings of others because they are from another part of the world and worship God differently? I doubt that history will have a very good opinion of those who let fear take away their sympathy and desire to make the world a better place. Much of the war on terror takes place in our own souls. The most significant, enduring terror we fight is the fear within us. No matter how much any country spends in blood, time, and resources, the war cannot end until each and every person begins to erase the hate inside of himself or herself. So, Angry Woman- if you want to be a true Christian and a patriot as well, you must learn to look past your fear to see the human within each person you have dismissed with your apathetic attitude and unfair generalizations.
Well said. I am currently reading an excellent book by a Tibetan Buddhist focusing on the path to Shambhala, the perhaps mythical city of enlightenment. The author speaks of fearlessness as not the lack of fear, but willfully moving BEYOND fear. We all fear at times. We don't all surrender to our fears.
ReplyDeleteGreat comeback letter Corey!! Wow, does the Angry Woman need a little therapy! No ONE should be that angry about ANYTHING!!!! WOW!
ReplyDeleteIt's unfortunate, but I have a feeling this war will be going on alot longer than anyone would like.
And I too, would like to know what President Bush learned in college. I'm thinking it wan't geography!